HMPC 0316 - Dopplegangland

[smartgirl63]

Bob, I was also wondering about your Xander/Willow theory. I think Xander's love for Willow is real and strong, just not romantic.

@Missy, I knew she looked familiar. Man, that's weird.

[FaithLehane]

A blink and you'll miss it that I Love is the Girl VampWillow bites
She'll reappear in a S5 Ep and for those of you who don't know...I'll keep quiet and see if you can guess.

She's Riley's vampire playmate.

I'm Shocked!!!Lol
Figured You'd Know.

She was one of my favorite characters, as soon as I saw that scene, I knew Riley would be leaving the show, and I was cheering.

I Was A Fan Of Sandy Too
Bummed they had to ruin her character by making her part of Riley's breakdown

[bigmoneygrip]

Bob, I was also wondering about your Xander/Willow theory. I think Xander's love for Willow is real and strong, just not romantic.

@Missy, I knew she looked familiar. Man, that's weird.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who went "Huh?!" when Bob said that Xander doesn't care/love Willow very much.

[bdegrande]

I put it badly, I do think that Xander genuinely cares for Willow, I just think that his hatred of vampires would outweigh that.  He has thought that any vampire should die, even friends (Jease) or at times allies (Spike, Angel). Willow would be a far more severe test, but I think he could kill her.

[beth]

I put it badly, I do think that Xander genuinely cares for Willow, I just think that his hatred of vampires would outweigh that.  He has thought that any vampire should die, even friends (Jease) or at times allies (Spike, Angel). Willow would be a far more severe test, but I think he could kill her.

I'm relieved that you feel the Xander/Willow love.  But still not sure I agree that he could have killed VampWillow.  I mean, he continues to love her when, as Dark Willow, she's pretty much the embodiment of pure apocalyptic evil -- more evil, I think, than VampWillow could ever be. 

[FaithLehane]

This may or may not be interesting (It just popped into my head,reading these Xander/Willow Love posts)

Are we assuming VampXander & VampWillow are together because >Xander< came to terms with his feelings for Willow?
Or
Are VampXander & VampWillow together because they were friends and were turned at the same time?

Option 3 is tied into No.2
Are they just together because Vamps are sexual creatures(and they knew each other)?

Sidenote: I'm on the team that thinks Xanders LOVE for Willow is deeper than Relatiohship love hence them not ever properly being together.

[smartgirl63]

I think Vamp Xander is with Vamp Willow because they were turned at the same time, he's attracted to strong women, and he's a follower. I'm sure their relationship isn't exclusive.

[FaithLehane]

I think Vamp Xander is with Vamp Willow because they were turned at the same time, he's attracted to strong women, and he's a follower. I'm sure their relationship isn't exclusive.

Lol
I think "Exclusive" is not a word in the Vamp vocabulary....Which is sorta hinted at when we learn that Darla turning Angel and being "Exclusive" was mocked.
I don't see Willow or Xander(Vamp Versions) being "Exclusive"
I figured it was Option 2 aswell

[hellmouth]

To put this discussion about vamp xander and vamp willow's relationship in perspective... are we saying that their relationship is like Angel/Darla or Spike/Drusilla or are they just a fling?

[FaithLehane]

To put this discussion about vamp xander and vamp willow's relationship in perspective... are we saying that their relationship is like Angel/Darla or Spike/Drusilla or are they just a fling?

I'd say their Relationship is a mix of Both
Definitely NOT a fling.

[beth]

This is interesting.  My gut reaction was to agree with smartgirl63's assessment of this.  It also makes sense that their connection with each other as humans would be carried over to their vampire selves, and that as vampires, there would be no bar to being sexual with each other.  Definitely not a fling, but not exclusive either (vampires!), especially since VampWillow is into women.  But when you bring up Darla/Angel and Drusilla/Spike, it makes me wonder if VampWillow sired VampXander; if so, that may be part of the reason VampWillow is clearly the dominant party in the relationship.

[FaithLehane]

This is interesting.  My gut reaction was to agree with smartgirl63's assessment of this.  It also makes sense that their connection with each other as humans would be carried over to their vampire selves, and that as vampires, there would be no bar to being sexual with each other.  Definitely not a fling, but not exclusive either (vampires!), especially since VampWillow is into women.  But when you bring up Darla/Angel and Drusilla/Spike, it makes me wonder if VampWillow sired VampXander; if so, that may be part of the reason VampWillow is clearly the dominant party in the relationship.

Lets say the events of 'WTTH' and 'TH' Played out the way they say it does in 'The Wish'
Willow gets bitten.....Xander is most likely NOT there,What your saying means they turned Will and sent her back into the Human world and she(with or without the consent of The Master) turns Xander....it makes sense that she'd be the dominant one......Because thats the way it plays out with Darla&Angel and even more so with Dru&Spike....The Women are all turned first and the Man-Pires(I've been waiting for an opurtunity to use that quote Lol) are their eternal slaves.
I don't buy for one second that Xander was turned and then Bit Willow.........I'd like to imagine they were turned at the exact same time by 2 different Vamps.